tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post6331648130217343031..comments2023-09-05T08:34:20.322-04:00Comments on susan the bruce: The Dark Side of Dr. PaulUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-3662331773369379152008-02-10T22:58:00.000-05:002008-02-10T22:58:00.000-05:00To the most recent of the anonymous tribe:Since mu...To the most recent of the anonymous tribe:<BR/><BR/>Since much was made of the contribution from DON BLACK, it wouldn't be hard to refuse it. Customarily, politicians refuse money and endorsements from people and groups they do not wish to be associated with. Ron Paul did not refuse the endorsement of David Duke - former Grand Wizard of the KKK. He did not refuse the $500 check from Don Black of StormFront.org. <BR/><BR/>If he wishes to avoid being tainted by accusations of racism, he should refuse to deal with famous racists. As Grandma used to say, "lay down with dogs, get up with fleas."susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-25138746017092428482008-02-10T22:00:00.000-05:002008-02-10T22:00:00.000-05:00Why would he return Duke's contribution? Will he t...Why would he return Duke's contribution? Will he then be expected to sift through all of the other contributions and determine which donations are from White Supremacists? That's impossible to do. Why aren't Huckabee or McCain refusing donations from white supremacists? What you don't understand is that Ron Paul is not a racist because he has support from a few whack job white supremacists. Those white supremacists could use the money to fuel their agenda, but they chose to give it to Ron Paul. Ron Paul will do good with the money. So you're saying you want him to give the money back to the wackos so that they can put it toward their white supremacist agenda? Am I reading that clearly???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-17312390335120672502008-01-14T14:39:00.000-05:002008-01-14T14:39:00.000-05:00So there's something wrong with a "smear", when th...So there's something wrong with a "smear", when the facts related are true and the reasoning used to make sense of them is sound? <BR/><BR/>I'd also like to see an intelligent rebuttal from a Paul supporter. But I'm not holding my breath.Nikkiruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09272171134009102743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-42321052832018416632008-01-07T14:49:00.000-05:002008-01-07T14:49:00.000-05:00Not sure Ron Paul is as bad as portrayed nor am I ...Not sure Ron Paul is as bad as portrayed nor am I sure he isn't. But, still being America or what's left of it your opinion is valid. And to those who do this threat crap under the cloak and concealment of a web page only strengthen the case against Paul. Because if idiots follow him and do this cowardly crap....he must be a dumbass magnet.Abell9https://www.blogger.com/profile/01793042060039371071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-72759767125864284282008-01-06T10:50:00.000-05:002008-01-06T10:50:00.000-05:00An update folks - since last night, I've received ...An update folks - since last night, I've received 3 threats from "anonymous." <BR/><BR/>I'm not going give the various members of the clan the satisfaction of posting them. All you anonymii out there should be aware that you are reinforcing the image that Ron Paul supporters are deranged.susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-16706779816997646522008-01-05T13:54:00.000-05:002008-01-05T13:54:00.000-05:00Some of you will have noticed that I haven't poste...Some of you will have noticed that I haven't posted your comments. I won't post rude or silly comments, and I'm not posting comments that are pages and pages of material. <BR/><BR/>I encourage you to respond - but also encourage you to simply provide a link to the material you reference, not all 14 paragraphs of the material. <BR/><BR/>I also encourage any Paul supporter to answer my questions. Why hasn't Ron Paul refused David Duke's endorsement? Why hasn't he returned the money from Don Black? Why isn't he addressing the concerns about his ties to neo-Nazis and white nationalists?susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-68289420506912548992008-01-05T09:28:00.000-05:002008-01-05T09:28:00.000-05:00Ron Paul—who, fair or not, will never be president...Ron Paul—who, fair or not, will never be president because of his popularity among racists… end of story—turns prejudice, which exists in the minds of individuals, into "collectivism." His disdain for any kind institutional response to any problem—in this case the problem being that racism, sexism, etc. are deeply institutionalized—precludes him from thinking that there may be social solutions. It’s the “gee if people would just stop being racist then there wouldn’t be any more racists” school of thought.<BR/><BR/>But apart from the racism business (which this country doesn’t really even have the vocabulary to address effectively) Paul seems to be an incredibly decent and smart man. His voice needs to be heard so that the libertarian-minded folks who flock to him can fully examine his free market philosophy. If that happened, they may see that "big gommint" is not nearly as controlling, un-libertarian, liberty hating, and intrusive as corporations. Not even close. <BR/><BR/>This is a libertarian blind spot. Ironically, and to Paul's credit, he is the only one to straight out call the Bush administration fascist (“soft” fascism he called it on Tim Russert two weeks ago) and rightly so. Fascism is the integrating of corporate, government—and in the case of neocons—religious institutions in the name of individual power and control. The odd thing is that Paul doesn’t seem to see that the government, by its unwillingness to control corporations in deference to their “individual” rights, is responsible for the lack of true individual choices in media, consumer goods, democratic action, and foreign policy that libertarians decry. So, more governmental control could mean more liberty if corporations were reigned in. It’s not quite that simple, but it’s an important discussion that is not taking place among the major corporate candidates.<BR/><BR/>At least Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (along with Mike Gravel and formerly Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan) are gutsy enough to talk about real change and are sincere about wanting change and not just grabbing control. So what happens… corporations shut them out! <BR/><BR/>How about a Ron Paul Dennis Kucinich debate one on one? At least there would be a real focus on two great American principles—liberty and compassion—instead of all the hollow pandering we get from Clinton, Romney, Obama, Guiliani, Edwards, Huckabee.David Thurlowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09183264821444304013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-76655436830451495562008-01-04T17:49:00.000-05:002008-01-04T17:49:00.000-05:00I thought this was America where all citizens dese...I thought this was America where all citizens deserved equal representin'! As the Grand purple wizard dragon of our local chapter, I commend Dr. Paul for stepping up to the plate and accepting his position as our sponsored represenative! Yeeee HAAAAWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-88712163696352483902008-01-04T15:56:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:56:00.000-05:00I see. How am I suppposed to tell all of you anony...I see. How am I suppposed to tell all of you anonymouse people apart?<BR/><BR/>If I'm smearing, you should be able to provide facts to prove me wrong. I'll be waiting.susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-76884208720315454462008-01-04T15:50:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:50:00.000-05:00"You claim that I'm smearing the good doctor"That ..."You claim that I'm smearing the good doctor"<BR/><BR/>That wasn't me but while you're at it, yes you are smearing Ron Paul. It won't work. The media has been trying to smear him and he's still gaining tracton.<BR/><BR/>I don't give my real name to someone with obvious hostility issues.<BR/><BR/>Happy New Year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-38364959943953118752008-01-04T15:45:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:45:00.000-05:00Let's summarize, shall we? You claim that I'm smea...Let's summarize, shall we? You claim that I'm smearing the good doctor, yet you have no factual proof that this is so. You offer only overblown rhetoric - and you aren't brave enough to use your real name. <BR/><BR/>thanks for playingsusanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-58505555159634112008-01-04T15:38:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:38:00.000-05:00"Why didn't Paul denounce and refuse David Duke's ..."Why didn't Paul denounce and refuse David Duke's endorsement? Why hasn't he fired Will Williams, the neo-Nazi in Tennessee? Why hasn't he returned the check from Don Black? Why hasn't he answered Michael Medved?"<BR/><BR/>Ron Paul is wise to ignore all of the idiots that seek to gain publicity through him.<BR/><BR/>That includes Duke, Black and Medved.<BR/><BR/>Will Williams doesn't work for Ron Paul anymore than you work for Mikey Medved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-73303322202902417292008-01-04T15:32:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:32:00.000-05:00So, anonymouse, rather than address the racist ti...So, anonymouse, rather than address the racist ties of Ron Paul you prefer to attack Michael Medved. That's meaningless. Why didn't Paul denounce and refuse David Duke's endorsement? Why hasn't he fired Will Williams, the neo-Nazi in Tennessee? Why hasn't he returned the check from Don Black? Why hasn't he answered Michael Medved?susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-89671345244571006562008-01-04T15:21:00.000-05:002008-01-04T15:21:00.000-05:00"Talk show host Michael Medved..."Mikey Medved is ..."Talk show host Michael Medved..."<BR/><BR/>Mikey Medved is a racist of the first order that only recently came out with a defense of slavery:<BR/><BR/>http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/09/26/six_inconvenient_truths_about_the_us_and_slavery<BR/><BR/>When you and/or Medved can come up with as scathing a rebuke to racism as Dr. Paul has below, let me know:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/racism/<BR/><BR/> A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.<BR/><BR/>The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism.<BR/><BR/>Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.<BR/><BR/>It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.<BR/><BR/>Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.<BR/><BR/>The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.<BR/><BR/>In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-89991946293999184682008-01-04T14:50:00.000-05:002008-01-04T14:50:00.000-05:00Hi anonymous -I'm sorry you aren't brave enough to...Hi anonymous -<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry you aren't brave enough to use your real identity - OR to point any factual inaccuracies.susanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05960705109051557790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19923729.post-16779000729432580352008-01-04T14:43:00.000-05:002008-01-04T14:43:00.000-05:00Hi Susan,Great smear piece......keep up the good w...Hi Susan,<BR/>Great smear piece...<BR/><BR/>...keep up the good work!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com